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Great interviews are a dialog!

Too many job interviews become one-way grill sessions. The potential employer asks a question and the candidate answers. Next question… next answer… and so it goes. Perhaps near the end of the interview, the employer asks if the candidate has any questions, then the process reverses for a few short minutes.

Then one candidate out of the many asks some questions as part of their reply to the question posed to them… and the whole dynamic changes! All of a sudden, the interview becomes a dialog!

It’s more of a conversation between professionals to mutually come to a conclusion on a business decision.

That candidate stands out from the others, and has better information to make their own decision about whether the job is the right one for them.

Job seekers often don’t think it’s appropriate to ask questions during the middle of an interview. It can, however, be a great differentiator between them and most other applicants.

So what does it look like?  Here are some examples and recommendations…

  • Always ask questions appropriate to the topic being discussed. Don’t awkwardly ask a question that diverts the conversation in another direction if the interviewer hasn’t changed topic themselves.

  • As an example… if the interviewer asks: “Can you give me an example of how you work with teams?”

    You might reply: “I’ve had a lot of experience on project teams, one example of how I helped a team successfully meet our objectives was… (fill in the story). Can you tell me more about the team I would be working with here?”

  • These questions create a 2-way conversation, and give the interviewee insight into the company, manager, team and environment. They are a great way to find out what the job and organization are really like.

  • As an example… if the interviewer asks: “Tell me about the management style you prefer.”

    You might reply: “Generally I prefer… (give your honest preference). How would you describe the management style here?”

A discussion, back and forth with the employer and candidate each asking questions of each other throughout the interview creates a great impression, provides more valuable information for both parties to make a more informed decision, and results in a much conversational meeting.

Turn your interviews into a dialog instead of a grill session and you’ll gain better results!


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Ya’ Gotta’ Be On The Ball!

One of the biggest speed bumps for too many job seekers in landing in a new position is a lack of projecting a sense of urgency in their networking, interviews, and follow up. It hinders them in making things happen, and it gives their contacts doubts when they’re considering giving more referrals.

If you want people to be more willing to help you in your search…

Ya’ gotta’ be on the ball!

The people you are connecting with want to see that you’re serious about your search and are jumping on things right away. If they gain that perception from you, you’ll often find that they will continue to feed you with leads, ideas and referrals.

If they don’t see you take initiative, or if they see you drag your feet on follow through, they won’t bother putting more time or mental effort into trying to help you.

You may not like it… but that’s the way it is!

As part of my activities in teaching job search classes, and in my recruiting business, one of my biggest frustrations is when I give someone a job lead, a networking contact, or make an introduction for them and they take days or weeks to follow up. It’s incredibly common.

If they don’t have a sense of urgency about it, and they don’t make an effort to respond right away then why should I extend myself any further to help them?

For people that do respond right away, and jump on the opportunity to connect with the people I give them, I go out of my way to continue to feed them with more ideas and referrals. If it’s clear it’s important to them, then I’ll make it a priority as well.

The number one complaint I hear in return from contacts I’ve referred job seekers to is always related to a sense of urgency as well. They tell me things like:

  • I never heard from them

  • It took them a week to call me

  • I told them to send me something / call me back / follow up and they didn’t

  • It didn’t seem like they were very interested in anything right now

Then, even if the job seeker does follow up later, the networking contact is polite, but has no intention of referring anyone else. They’re not about to subject one of their contacts to someone that doesn’t seem to take it seriously.

As a result, the job seeker often says…

“This networking thing doesn’t work for me.  I never get referrals I need!”

Demonstrate a sense of urgency! When you get a lead or referral… follow up on it TODAY, or tomorrow at the latest! Then, immediately follow up with the person that gave it to you, thank them, let them know the result, and that you’re grateful for any additional ideas they have as well.  You’ll find your results improve dramatically.

Be on the ball… and your job search will become more productive!


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Managing Expectations

I had a cup of coffee with someone that is currently looking for a new job. He’s an executive level professional that has been very successful in his career, recently took advantage of a buyout opportunity, and is a couple of weeks into his job search.

As we were talking about his progress so far, he talked about a challenge he’s facing that is extremely common among unemployed job seekers…

Family and friends put expectations on him since he has so much “free” time available while he’s unemployed.

They want him to run errands, take care of home projects, help with other activities, and other demands on his time that leaves him very little to do the tasks he needs to do for his search.

Most of it… he’s glad to do! He loves the chance to be much more active with his kids, he’s glad to help his wife and friends more than he’s been able to do previously. However, he’s realized he’s had to turn down offers to network over a cup of coffee with others because his time was already booked.

When you’re in a job, people understand you have limited time available and don’t expect 24/7 availability. When you’re unemployed, however, the perception is that your time is completely flexible and you can be available for other projects on a moments notice.

The reality is that most networking, meeting, phone call, and interview opportunities are only going to happen during standard business hours. Those hours are precious to an effective job search. A job search usually needs to be treated as a full-time job in itself.

It is true, that there is more flexibility and fewer expectations on your time during a job search than while working in a full-time job. However, managing expectations with others so that you have the ability to arrange meetings and conversations at the convenience of the contacts you’re making is critical.

Finding the right balance is often a challenge and may take days or weeks of trial and error before figuring out compromises that work.

Having honest and supportive conversations with others, helping them understand what you’re trying to accomplish without alienating them is key.

Enlisting others to keep you accountable and help you find the right balance often aids in making the process go more smoothly.

Make them part of your “team” to help you do the things you need to do in your job search.

AND… do enjoy the added flexibility you do have to be with your family, to help others, and to get projects done!

Manage the expectations of those around you, carve out the time you need for your search, and take advantage of the time you have available.


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What Do You Want to Know???

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I’ve been writing this blog for years now and have covered a number of topics. Yet, I’m always amazed at the new questions that come up from readers through various forms of contact I’ve had with them.

I want to make sure I’m addressing questions and topics that are on your mind regarding an effective job search.


Have a job search question? Email me through the link in the contact page, leave a comment on the site, call me through the number posted on the contact page of my e-Executives site, send me a Tweet on Twitter, or send smoke signals! I want to hear from you! I’m looking forward to your response.


Wishing you a successful job search, and “many happy returns” to this blog!


Harry
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I’ve Been Successful… Why Can’t I Land a Job?

People that have been highly successful in their careers often have a difficult time landing a new position. They’ve achieved great things, they’ve been elevated to roles of great responsibility, everyone that knows them assumes they will be snatched up quickly, yet months go by and still no offers seem to be materializing. 

How can that be?

There are a number of dynamics in that type of situation, here are some things to consider…

It’s a pyramid, not a ladder. People often forget that the higher they go in their career, the fewer jobs there are. A large company may have an army of Staff Accountants,  however, there are fewer Accounting Managers, fewer still Directors, fewer Controllers, and perhaps one VP and/or CFO.

While someone may have found jobs quickly and easily when they were looking for mid-career roles, there are now fewer positions to aim for when they are in pursuing senior leadership roles. Fewer positions in a great economy, and far fewer in a tough job market.

Management can be easier to cut. When companies are trying to trim expenses and find ways to save money, it’s not unusual for them to trim layers of leadership in the organization. Removing someone from senior leadership roles can often save a lot of money, and it keeps the necessary ‘worker bees’ in place. Yes, they lose strategic leadership and direction. However, as a short term cost cutting measure it often makes good sense. As a result, in a tough economy, there’s a greater likelihood of getting cut, and there is more competition for similar level open positions. The hunt becomes much more challenging.

Compensation plans vary dramatically. A VP of Marketing in one organization can have a very different compensation plan than the same role in another organization of similar size. For someone that’s been fortunate to have been highly compensated in their previous role, it can be a difficult challenge to either match that same level of income or convince a potential employer that a pay cut is acceptable. It’s a legitimate concern for them to wonder how long they can keep someone if a more competitive offer comes around.

Industry specific knowledge can limit opportunity. The more focused a role is to a specific company or industry, the fewer opportunities there are likely to be to pursue in the marketplace. Having achieved a great level of responsibility and knowledge of a specific product or process that made you valuable to your previous employer, may not be seen as a great value to another. The more niche the expertise, the fewer other organizations are likely to be interested. Great success in one industry doesn’t necessarily transfer to another.

Jobs aren’t posted online. Senior leadership roles typically aren’t posted online or advertised in other venues. When an organization is looking for a new C-level executive, or a new VP, it’s highly unusual that they would advertise that opening at all. When a position at that level is advertised somehow, it’s often at the end of the process, after someone has already been identified, to see if there may have been a ‘Superstar’ that might have been missed, however, they rarely take applicants seriously at that point.

Networking is critical! The higher the level the position, the more likely it will be filled by word-of-mouth, networking, referrals, or an Executive Recruiter (and the Recruiter is almost always last on the list). Pursuing companies, other executives as contacts and referral sources, and connecting with as many people as possible will be far more productive than chasing job postings. Networking is THE means of finding and landing Senior Level roles, much more so than any mid-career level positions.

Although it can feel humbling to have achieved great success in previous roles and not seem to be able to easily find a job, it’s an extremely common challenge. It requires more networking than the average job seeker, and the same tenacity, professionalism, and optimism that likely enabled you to achieve your career success in the first place.


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LinkedIn is not Facebook!

LinkedIn is an outstanding professional networking tool, and invaluable as a job search tool. It’s the best place to find, and be found by prospective employers. Recruiters, HR departments, and hiring managers use LinkedIn extensively to find people that might fit particular roles. They search profiles, and look through relevant group discussions hunting for people that might be worthwhile connecting to.

LinkedIn groups are still part of LinkedIn… a professional networking site.

That may seem obvious, however, there seems to be a disconnect for some people between their profile and the image they project in groups. Their contribution to some group discussions are anything but professional.

There are ample cases of people using inappropriate language, telling inappropriate stories, belittling others, poor grammar or spelling, or the apparent inability to write coherently at all.

If they are not currently looking for a job, it certainly would discourage others from connecting with them, collaborating with them, or taking their advice. And while they may not be looking for a job now, they may at some point in the future, yet their history is still available for all to see.

If they are currently looking for a job, that kind of interaction on LinkedIn can likely be a death knell to further consideration by employers.

While Facebook is primarily a social application, LinkedIn is designed for your professional life. Discussion groups on LinkedIn are part of that as much as the profile is. Creating a powerful LinkedIn profile page, and then creating an unprofessional image in discussion groups is a sure-fire way to be passed over for further consideration.

Think of Facebook as your neighborhood barbeque, and LinkedIn as your office or your job interview.

Your entire online presence is open to being considered by potential employers in the hiring process. A Google search can uncover a great deal of your online activity. So being careful of anything you post is wise. However, posting unprofessional, and inappropriate material on LinkedIn is particularly unwise. If LinkedIn is the place to find you at your professional best, what is your average behavior?

Similarly, employers will often discard a resume with spelling or grammatical errors because the resume is intended to be a candidates best presentation of themselves, their abilities and their professionalism. If their best effort has errors, it’s fair to assume their average effort falls considerably shorter.

LinkedIn groups are a great place to show your expertise, knowledge, and ability to communicate well with others. They are a place where you can enhance your credibility in your field or your industry. Your reputation can be built up by the way you engage, or it can be destroyed.

LinkedIn is not Facebook! Be very conscious of how you present yourself to other professional contacts, and to potential employers.


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Simplify for better results

Often, people that have been in a job search for a while and have been learning all they can to become more effective in their search efforts, can get too sophisticated for their own good.

While it is important to work out how to have effective networking conversations, and prepare thoroughly for interview questions, it’s best when those conversations sound genuine and natural. When most of the conversations sounds contrived in order make a certain impression, it rarely creates the rapport that’s necessary to gain further interest.

While the listener may indeed be impressed by the obvious mastery of corporate lingo, impressive experience, or deep technical skills, if they don’t fully understand what you’re talking about, they will nod in approval, but not respond with referrals, ideas, or further interest.

When an Information Technology professional tells their non-technical networking contact:

My background as a UNIX Systems Engineer has given me terrific skills in Perl scripting, Kernel programming, server capacity planning as well as some exposure to Cisco router configurations and WAN Engineering.

They are frustrated that “this job networking stuff” doesn’t seem to work for them.

A Corporate HR professional connecting with a Mechanical Engineer at a company they would like to pursue says:

I’ve been able to improve the ROI on our Human Capital investment by focusing on culture characteristics that don’t foster better corporate communication and employee interfaces.

The Mechanical Engineer, who considers himself a generally intelligent person, thinks… “Huh???”, nods, but has no idea who else they could refer them to.

The Staff Accountant interviewing with the HR recruiter who doesn’t have an accounting background tells them:

Even though it wasn’t required, I got a FINRA registration in my last position to be able to interface with the advisory team. That combined with my GAPP knowledge, my CMA, and my CAPM experience makes me a perfect fit for this role.

They find the recruiter gives them a smiling nod, but then are surprised when the interview process doesn’t seem to go any further.

The Marketing Analyst interviewing with the hiring manager says:

My greatest weakness in my career has been that I work too hard and don’t turn it off at 5:00. My focus on looking for strategic advantages to improve the ROI drives me to set high expectations for both me and my team.

The manager is polite, but the conversation never seems to warm up, and the candidate feels like they just didn’t seem to have chemistry.

Great preparation includes being able to communicate in “layman’s” terms and not sound like you’re reciting contrived and canned lines and answers. Rapport and chemistry are very important in the networking and hiring process and people generally don’t warm up to someone that sounds like they’re reading a script, or speaking over their head!

If the Staff Accountant instead says something like:

I’ve been able to complete additional relevant certifications and training that help me communicate better and become more effective in my role. I believe those courses can prepare me better to be productive quickly in this position.

Or the Marketing Analyst, more genuinely answers:

One of my weaknesses has been the tendency to get distracted during the day at times. So I’ve learned to use my calendar and task lists more effectively to stay on track.

They find that they are much better received, they begin to form a better relationship, and their networking results improve.

Authenticity goes a long way in connecting effectively with people. Prepare, practice, and develop effective Elevator Speeches and interview answers. However, focus on them sounding genuine, conversational, and natural for you. Don’t use someone else’s pre-canned words and phrases, especially when they don’t come across as something you would naturally say.

Keep things simple! Be authentic! …and you will see better results!


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Are your values really your values?

When pursuing job opportunities, it’s always important to have a solid understanding of the type of company and culture where you can be most successful. Discerning the  best opportunity for you is as important as the company hiring the right employee.

In order to see whether a companies culture, style, and values match your own, however, you have to know what your values are. Many, perhaps most people don’t know what they really are. They may say certain values and character traits are important to them, perhaps because they sound good or noble. However, they don’t necessarily represent how they actually live at all.

If you were asked… What ARE your values?

Are they REALLY your values?

Here are some thoughts on how to figure it out…

Do your actions reflect what you profess?
Most anyone you ask will tell you that one of their values is honesty and integrity. Yet those are character traits seriously deficient in many organizations.

Do you believe yourself to be an honest person… yet are you willing to fudge on some facts when trying to close a deal with a new client?
Do you believe you have integrity, but take pens and notepads home from the office?
Do you believe you value fairness, but don’t correct your boss when he assumes you accomplished something that was really done by a co-worker?

Ask yourself those and many other similar questions to determine if you’re really not living what you say you believe. Most of us slip at times, and deceive ourselves as much as we try to deceive others. Determine if you really do intend to live the values you say you live by, or if you only say them because they sound good!

Are your values still ‘in training’?
Perhaps the values you profess are what you hope actually characterize your life. However, you find that you fall down time and time again. None of us is perfect, however, daily improvement is critical. The key is to recognize the gap. Acknowledge when you fail, and begin again to be consistent between your words and your actions. Being consciously intentional about living as you want to be known will help you get closer to the ideal.

Who do you know that best exemplifies your values?
When you think of the values you want to live in your own life, think of others you know who you respect for most apparently exhibiting those values. Observe them and ask yourself what it is about how they go about their work and their life that helps you see those values in action. Learn from them and emulate them in a way that fits your personality and style. It’s not necessary or healthy to mimic someone else, however, you can certainly learn behaviors that exhibit the values you’d like to adopt.

Keep in mind… no one is perfect. Even the person you most respect will have flaws and shortcomings. They will falter from time to time and will disappoint you. Give them grace, and focus on the good over the bad.

You will likely fail if your values differ from the organization. 
While you may be able to articulate honorable values in an interview process, and an organization may hire you based on what they like about what you said, you will fail if the values you actually live from day to day don’t reflect your words. If a company really does uphold a high standard of ethics, hard-work, and trust, and your daily work life doesn’t show the same character traits, the job is likely to be short-lived.

Similarly, if the company has a tendency to cut corners and say anything to get business while your life is marked by more honorable characteristics, you will likely not succeed in that environment either.

Know yourself!
For your own benefit and for the employers… it’s critical to know yourself! Be brutally honest in your self-evaluation. You may not like what you find. You may decide to start a ‘values development program’. However, it benefits no one when you deceive yourself about who you are or deceive others.

Start where you are. Decide where you’d like to be. And chart a course to achieve that goal.

Knowing what your values REALLY are, and being able to articulate them well in your job search process will help you and a potential employer make a better match! Are your values REALLY your values? Figure it out and you’ll be more effective in all areas of your life.


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See what sticks… is not a job search strategy

I was describing the reality of what happens on the receiving end of the job application process to a group of job seekers recently as part of  a presentation on how to land a key interview.

It’s not unusual for an organization to receive dozens, or even hundreds of online applications for every position they have posted. While it certainly is a competitive job market, there certainly aren’t that many qualified candidates applying for each job. The overwhelming majority of those applicants apply to all kinds of positions, whether they are qualified or not, in the hopes that “something’s gotta stick!”

In reality… No… something does not have to stick.

I often hear job seekers tell me they’ve applied to 100 or 400 jobs and haven’t gotten a single interview. That’s not surprising since, in order to apply to that many jobs, they must have applied to a large number of positions they weren’t really qualified to perform.

It’s understandable, that when someone is desperate to land a job… any job, they will ‘carpet bomb’ the marketplace to hopefully get noticed by someone. The recruiter, or hiring manager on the other hand receives resumes and applications from people that truly have the right mix of experience and skills in addition to the multitude who apply and don’t have an appropriate background for the job at all.

It’s common sense that they will focus their attentions on the well qualified candidates and ignore those that are not. While the job seeker may feel they have some relevant experience that might be of interest to the employer, the employer will naturally gravitate to those candidates that have a great deal of relevant background.

Targeting 10 or 20 jobs that truly are a good fit for your background, tailoring your resume for those opportunities, networking in those organizations, and being pleasantly persistent will net far greater results than blanketing the market with a generic resume.

Take the time and put in the effort to strategically pursue specific companies and positions that are best suited to you, and you will find the results you get greatly improved!


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Decide to do what’s necessary

Most people are not professional job seekers!

That’s a good thing… because most people are working in jobs and not looking for a job.

When they do need to look for a job, there are many tasks that are uncomfortable for them because they haven’t done them before and so they feel awkward. As a result, a great many job seekers primarily do those tasks that are easier for them and avoid the ones that are more difficult.

They primarily do those things are within their comfort zone.

 

  • Endlessly searching for and applying to job postings online is easier than contacting someone at a company and asking for referrals.

  • Applying for a position and waiting for a call is easier than proactively following up the application with professional persistence to be sure you’re being considered for the role.

  • Sending out dozens of generic resumes is easier than figuring out what each job requires most and customizing the resume to emphasize that experience and skills.

  • Randomly spending your days and weeks jumping from one task to another without a plan is easier than scheduling your week with specific blocked out times to accomplish objectives.

…and many other similar examples.

The biggest obstacle most people face in doing the “hard” things, is their own resistance and thus their procrastination in doing them. The best thing many people can do is to take the time to consciously, and deliberately answer the question:

Am I only willing to do those things that are in my comfort zone, or am I willing to do whatever is necessary to land a new job in this market?

Wrestling with that question… and hopefully coming to the conclusion, and conscious decision that you are willing to do what’s necessary will greatly help you overcome the resistance. Whenever resistance arises within you, you can recall your commitment, decide to honor it, and move forward.

Most people haven’t made that intentional commitment to themselves, and so evading the “hard” things is not a problem for them… except for the lack of results.

Taking on a “job-search mindset”, and committing to do the things that are most effective whether they are easy or not, will dramatically improve the results from your efforts.

The commitment can cause you to:

  • Be willing to connect to a stream of new people you’ve never talked to before. Always asking for additional referrals that would be worthwhile to talk to about your search.

  • Find contacts through LinkedIn or other networking connections at companies you’re interested or have applied to and proactively call and talk to people professionally introducing yourself and expressing interest rather than waiting and hoping for a call back on your application.

  • Make the effort to customize your resume each time you present it to a new company, emphasizing the most relevant skills and experience they are likely to be interested in.

  • Deliberately planning your days and weeks in order to be more productive each day rather than figuring out what to do next from hour to hour.

  • Thoroughly prepare and practice interview questions and behavioral interview scenarios. Doing the work of solid preparation rather than winging it.

  • Be bold… finding new and creative ways to connect to the right people, introduce yourself more effectively to companies, and be pleasantly, professionally, persistent.

Once you ask yourself the question of:

Am I willing to do what’s necessary?

And make a commitment that you are… everything else becomes easier and your search becomes far more effective!


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Corporate Recruiters and Your Job Search

It’s pretty common to hear job seekers talk about their frustration with Corporate / In-House Recruiters or HR Representatives at the companies they are pursuing.

In most cases their frustration is really the result of not understanding the role, the challenges, and the processes that recruiter faces. The more that’s understood, the better your results can be, and a better relationship can be formed.

Job seeker complaints can be varied…

  • “They hardly know anything about the job”
  • “They had their list of questions, and didn’t want to hear about my other experience”
  • “They don’t return my calls or emails”
  • “They couldn’t answer my questions about the technologies involved in the position”
  • “They kept after me to get my previous salary and expectations early in the process”
  • “I never heard back from them again”
  • “Weeks went by between interviews / conversations”
  • …and others

Having a better understanding of their role and challenges can address many of these issues.

They are not the hiring manager. While the Recruiter or HR Representative may have a great deal of knowledge about the company and generally the types of people they want to hire, they are not involved in the day-to-day responsibilities of the particular position you’re likely pursuing. In small to mid-sized companies, they may have one person that recruits for open positions all across the organization. At the same time, they may be trying to fill positions ranging from a janitor, to an entry-level accountant, to a Director of Marketing,  to a VP of Information Technology (IT). It’s virtually impossible for any one person to be very well versed in the details of all of those roles.

In larger companies, there may be dedicated recruiters for each functional area of the organization. However, even there they have a variety of positions they are trying to fill. An IT Recruiter may be looking for a Network Engineer, a Web Developer, and a Project Manager all at the same time. Each position requires very different skill sets and an individual recruiter can’t be an expert in each one of them.

Asking detailed technical questions about a position to the recruiter will generally not get you the answers and insight you’re looking for. And trying to impress them with the deep knowledge you have your areas of expertise will not likely make the impact you hope. Detailed questions about the position are better held for the hiring manager, who knows much more exactly what they need and will much better understand your related experience. They are the ones in the trenches dealing with those things on a daily basis and better versed in the details.

It’s not possible for them to respond to every email and call. Recruiters at most companies are working on anywhere between 15 and 30 positions at one time. HR Representatives generally also have additional responsibilities than only filling the positions. Most companies, in today’s job market receive dozens, or hundreds of applicants for each job they have posted online. If a recruiter working on 20 positions, receives calls or emails from only 20 of the hundreds of applicants for each of those 20 positions each week, that would mean they would need to respond to 400 inquiries in the course of the week. In the vast majority of cases, that would be only to let people know that nothing has been decided yet. To respond to 400 inquiries, at an average of only 5 minutes each, would require over 30 hours out of their work week before they’ve accomplished anything proactively to actually fill the roles… i.e. reviewing resumes, screening potential candidates, arranging interviews, collaborating with the hiring manager, etc.

In most cases recruiters would like to respond to each one, however, it’s not possible for them to do and still be productive. The lack of response is not personal, or a judgment about you or your background. It’s simply a casualty of the reality of what they have before them.

They have to know whether it can work, or not. Job seekers often get irritated with the recruiters insistence on digging into salary history and expectations so early in the process. However, it would be irresponsible for them to spend a great deal of time with you and present you to the hiring manager if a deal can’t be reached because of your compensation expectations. They always have limits and salary ranges they have to stay within when filling any particular role. If your expectations don’t fit within the range, it’s a waste of time for all involved. They don’t have time to dig into all your other experience only to find out later that they would not be able to hire you, and so the question needs to be addressed very early on.

They have no news if they don’t get news from the hiring manager. While they are invariably an important part of the process, they generally are not the decision maker. If the hiring manager is not responding to them about your status, the recruiter has nothing they can share with you. They are not inclined to take your call, respond to your email, or proactively call you only to say they have no news. They, often, are in the dark just as you are.

They want to get the job filled! Their performance reviews, and often bonuses are largely based on how many positions they are able fill.  They want to get positions filled, and if you’re the right person to fill it, they want to do all they can to make it happen as quickly as possible. If the hiring manager gives them the OK to bring you in for an interview, they are generally going to try to arrange that as soon as possible. If they are going to move forward with an offer, they are going to try to execute that right away. One more position off their plate is a win for everyone. The internal recruiter is usually not the one slowing down the process or dragging their feet on next steps. They are usually subject to the pace of the hiring manager or other parts of the process.

So what do you do with all this???

The Recruiter is not your best networking contact. The recruiter is primarily focused on filling the specific positions they’ve been assigned to fill, and don’t have the time to help you find where you may best fit into the organization. Only call an HR person or Recruiter about specific roles they have, and reserve your more generalized networking questions for others outside of HR that will be more willing to help.

Keep your audience in mind! When you’re talking to the Recruiter or HR Representative, don’t try to drill down for specific detail of the position and what an average day is like. Reserve those questions for the hiring manager. Ask them about the corporate culture, about what it’s like to work at the company, what traits the company appreciates, and other things more related to their expertise.

No news is not necessarily bad news. When we haven’t heard back from a recruiter in a time-frame we think is appropriate, we generally assume there’s no interest or things have died. A job seekers time-frame, however, is almost always much shorter than a hiring manager’s time frame. While they would like to get someone hired quickly, they still have their primary job to do as well. Other priorities regularly take precedent and the hiring process can easily get pushed out another day, week, or month. Check in regularly, however, don’t assume that the opportunity has been lost. It’s likely just delayed.

You can still get points, even though there’s no reply. Even though a recruiter may not be able to respond to your voicemail or email, they are still likely to notice that you reached out to connect. Showing consistent interest is a great way to set yourself apart from other candidates. Mix up the forms of contact… leave a voicemail once, send an email, catch them on the phone, drop a note in the mail. Don’t leave several voicemails between actual contacts. Be sure your connections are brief, professional, and upbeat. Even if they can’t get back to you, it will make a positive impression.

Pursue multiple avenues. Even though you may have already interviewed, keep pursuing other contacts within the organization. Acknowledge to them that you are already in process on a position, however, let them know you are interested in learning as much about the organization as you can as you evaluate the opportunity. Let them know that any insight and advice would be greatly appreciated. Ask them what they would recommend would be the most effective way, in their organization, to set yourself apart from other candidates they are talking to. Consider all the advice you get carefully. Multiple advocates in an organization is a good thing for your prospects.

Understanding the internal recruiters role can help you be more effective in pursuing positions!


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Follow Your Passion is usually bad advice

One of the most common pieces of advice given to job seekers when they are trying to decide what they want to be when they grow up is: “Follow your passion!” or “Do what you love!”

While there may be some exceptions, this is usually bad advice and advice that has left many people’s careers in a mess!

It sounds good, and who wouldn’t want to do what they love to do? There are, however, multiple reasons why this usually doesn’t work and there are better alternatives.

Many don’t have passions! That may sound sad, but it’s true. I would say that perhaps most people, while they have things they enjoy, can’t say they have a real passion for any particular activity, task or hobby. Diving in to pursue something that’s outside of your career training or traditional jobs based on a mild enjoyment will not likely give you the  drive necessary to ultimately be successful. Be careful of making one up!

It may be a passion, until you have to make a living at it. Many people do have a great passion for certain things. Perhaps it’s a hobby, or sport, or music, or some leisure activity they do when ever they can carve out the time. Often, however, it’s a passion because it’s an escape from the pressures of a career and earning a living. It’s a way to do something without expectations. Once the activity is required to generate an income, all the fun runs out of it. Now it’s no longer a way to kick back and relax doing something for leisure, but rather something that has to be done well in order to meet customer expectations or build an income out of it in some way. It’s not unusual in that situation that the passion becomes something you despise.

A passion may not pay the bills. Something that may be a passion may be a lousy money-maker. One example from one of my job search classes a while back was a woman who had built a successful career over many years in a manufacturing company, and unfortunately got caught in cut backs and was laid off. She looked at her circumstances as an opportunity to do something she had “always wanted to do”. She decided she would pursue becoming a photographer. Unfortunately, she discovered that even “successful” photographers usually earned around half her previous income. While she was prepared for somewhat of a pay-cut, she was not prepared for one that would be that drastic.  It’s not unusual that a pleasurable hobby pays nowhere near what a traditional job may pay.

Be honest… are you really that good at it? What many people fail to recognize is that while they may be pretty good as an amateur, they are nowhere near being able to make it as a professional. The early weeks of each season of “American Idol” demonstrate that in terms of singing. However, the same is true for any number of other skills as well. Get objective and honest opinions about your skills and level of ability before deciding you’re ready to make your passion a career.

What’s better?

Instead of looking to do what you love… love what you do! Many people decide they are in the wrong career because they aren’t enjoying their workday, or they haven’t been as successful as they hoped, or they want more flexibility in their schedule. Those may, or may not be legitimate factors to consider. However, looking at what you currently do in new ways can have dramatic effects. What parts of your current work do you do best? How can you approach your current work in new ways to make it more enjoyable or more fulfilling? Do you actually dislike your career, or where you’re currently working? (Sometimes a bad culture or work environment can make it difficult to enjoy a career you may otherwise love).

It’s not unusual for someone to not be enthusiastic about a particular job, but over time come to thrive and find they really love what they do. It was not something they would have chosen, but find they’ve grown to thoroughly enjoy their career. It may take deliberate effort to get there, but the results can be worth it.

What gives you a sense of accomplishment and achievement? Most people enjoy things they are good at. They take pride in things they’ve accomplished and things they can perform with excellence. Striving to do your best in your current role, over time, can often make that role very rewarding personally, professionally, and financially.

While pursuing what you love sounds like a great concept, and may be appropriate in some cases, it’s often a recipe for disaster for a great many people. In most cases, a better recipe is to learn to love what you do!


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